Monday, November 7, 2011

Digest for seo-professionals@googlegroups.com - 9 Messages in 5 Topics

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    Thilak Rao <thilak.siliconindia@gmail.com> Nov 03 07:27PM +0530  

    I agree with Reg here. From my experience, keeping things organic produces the best results.
     
    Thilak Rao
     
    On 28-Oct-2011, at 10:40 PM, Reg Charie wrote:
     

     

    anita das <anitadas4@gmail.com> Nov 07 03:50PM +0530  

    Thanks
     
     
    On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Thilak Rao

     

    riyo9009 <riyo9009@gmail.com> Nov 06 10:21PM -0800  

    Hello All
     
    I came across a new free article directory. Its Instant:
    http://www.numerounomedia.com/

     

    Eugene Pik <eugene@easydevs.com> Nov 03 09:15AM -0700  

    Hello to all SEO specialists.
    This is my 1st post here; please do not judge too hard...
     
    Description:
    We are in the process of creating multi-domain site to present
    localized content for www.shalomlife.com users in different countries.
    We have 3 locations:
    Canada: ca.shalomlife.com
    USA: us.shalomlife.com
    International: www.shalomlife.com
     
    We use IP Geotargeting to redirect users to their location. After
    users choose another location (click on the flag) we save it in their
    browser cookie and use for all following requests.
     
    We're just starting the US site and its content is very similar to the
    content of Canadian site. In future there will be more local articles
    created by the US writers and editors.
     
    Issues:
    1) Redirects.
    Google scanners are located in the USA. The site automatically
    redirects them to us.shalomlife.com and they have no access to content
    located on ca.shalomlife.com. Currently we redirect all pages, but we
    decided to do so only for the home page and will implement that
    shortly. But the Home page would still have an issue… Should we
    'trick' Google and do not redirect its scanners?
     
    2) Duplicate content
    All international articles will be visible on both domains. Local
    Canadian and Local US articles will be visible under "world" category
    on other site. Will Google punish us for that? What is the solution?
     
    3) International domain
    International users will arrive on www.shalomlife.com. This site will
    be similar to us.shalomlife.com until we have more locations. That
    means 2 completely identical sites… We could use www.shalomlife.com
    for the USA users instead of us.shalomlife.com, but then switching
    from Canada to USA doesn't make sense for the international users… Any
    suggestion here?
     
    Thanks,
    Eugene

     

    "gary young" <gary.young@btinternet.com> Nov 07 10:03AM +0100  

    Welcome Eugene to our thriving community!
     
    My answers are:
     
    1) I would not consider tricking Google with redirects, especially using
    cloaking. Google has huge army of human reviewers you will be caught,
    especially if you start getting traffic.
    Use only 301 redirects and understand that Google will focus only the
    destination domain, although it can take a couple of months to register all
    pages.
     
    2) Avoid duplicate content on your main websites at all costs. Period.
    Rewrite the content if you wish to have multiple sites in the same language.
     
     
    3) You should use Google webmaster tools to indicate which domain you wish
    to focus for each country. Otherwise, purchase the domain names like
    www.shalomlife.ca No need to host it in the country of origin.
     
    Good luck,
    Gary
    "Passionately seeking knowledge in order to serve"
     
    internetmarketingguruSERVICES
    e: gary@InternetMarketingGuru.co.uk
    t: +44207 617 7029
    Skype id: InternetMarketingService
    w: www.InternetMarketingGuruService.com
     
     
     
     
     
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: seo-professionals@googlegroups.com
    [mailto:seo-professionals@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eugene Pik
    Sent: 03 November 2011 17:15
    To: SEO PROFESSIONALS
    Subject: Multi-domain site: redirects and duplicate content
     
    Hello to all SEO specialists.
    This is my 1st post here; please do not judge too hard...
     
    Description:
    We are in the process of creating multi-domain site to present localized
    content for www.shalomlife.com users in different countries.
    We have 3 locations:
    Canada: ca.shalomlife.com
    USA: us.shalomlife.com
    International: www.shalomlife.com
     
    We use IP Geotargeting to redirect users to their location. After users
    choose another location (click on the flag) we save it in their browser
    cookie and use for all following requests.
     
    We're just starting the US site and its content is very similar to the
    content of Canadian site. In future there will be more local articles
    created by the US writers and editors.
     
    Issues:
    1) Redirects.
    Google scanners are located in the USA. The site automatically redirects
    them to us.shalomlife.com and they have no access to content located on
    ca.shalomlife.com. Currently we redirect all pages, but we decided to do so
    only for the home page and will implement that shortly. But the Home page
    would still have an issue. Should we 'trick' Google and do not redirect its
    scanners?
     
    2) Duplicate content
    All international articles will be visible on both domains. Local Canadian
    and Local US articles will be visible under "world" category on other site.
    Will Google punish us for that? What is the solution?
     
    3) International domain
    International users will arrive on www.shalomlife.com. This site will be
    similar to us.shalomlife.com until we have more locations. That means 2
    completely identical sites. We could use www.shalomlife.com for the USA
    users instead of us.shalomlife.com, but then switching from Canada to USA
    doesn't make sense for the international users. Any suggestion here?
     
    Thanks,
    Eugene

     

    Thilak Rao <thilak.siliconindia@gmail.com> Nov 03 07:30PM +0530  

    Google's algorithm is smart enough to figure it out. Recently I was trying to optimize one of my client's site for local search, and I read somewhere that including the address and the telephone number was the best way to help the process. That's how local search basically work.
     
    Depending upon your client's need, it might work in your advantage or maybe, it won't. For example, let's say your client is located in New York and wants to target Australian audience.
     
    Thilak Rao
     
    On 03-Nov-2011, at 5:29 PM, nnksoft wrote:
     

     

    "Vedat Gurtan" <vedatgurtan@gmail.com> Nov 03 06:53PM -0400  

    Hi,
     

     
    Is there an SEO friendly way to list phone numbers on a site?
     

     
    For example 555.555.5555 or (555) 555-5555 or 555-555-5555
     

     
    Or it makes no difference?
     

     
    Best Regards,
     

     

     

     
    From: seo-professionals@googlegroups.com [mailto:seo-professionals@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Winninginch
    Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 7:10 AM
    To: seo-professionals@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: Same phone number on many sites.
     

     
    Hello,
     

     
    It depends.. If you have a number of websites that are uniquely different and offer different things then it will not matter.
     

     
    If you have similar sites that are pretending to be different then the tel number may give Google a pretty big hint that it is owned by the same person. However, longer term Google will look at registration details, IP addresses of both servers and ftp sources, as everything is recorded, so in this case the telephone number is still irrelevant.
     

     
    If there is confusion over "duplicate content" then that would not apply to a telephone number. Hence, in any of the above scenarios it will make no difference..
     

     
    There is a general consensus that Google trusts websites which it knows everything about especially the identity of the person/people behind it. It is a major part of why big brands fo well. It has been suggested that using G-mail and linked Google accounts etc all help to establish identity and hence increases trust. No idea how true that is but it does make sense.
     

     

     
    On 3 November 2011 07:20, Thilak Rao <thilak.siliconindia@gmail.com> wrote:
     
    No, you won't be penalized for it. Most business websites do that. As a matter of fact, it helps you with local search.
     
    On 31-Oct-2011, at 8:31 PM, Justin W Hall wrote:
     
     
    --
    Kevin Symons
     
    Intenet Marketing and web design <http://www.winninginch.co.uk>

     

    Ayushi sinha <kipl.seo4@gmail.com> Nov 04 09:46PM -0700  

    For having same phone number for different URL will never a reason of
    penalty. The main problem with same phone number is that you will not
    be able to submit different URL in local bbusiness directory because
    mainly they take phone number as your identity.
     

     

    Thilak Rao <thilak.siliconindia@gmail.com> Nov 03 07:36PM +0530  

    Hi Zamir,
    Sorry for the off topic discussion, but any email which contains your reply direct goes into my spam filter. I use Apple Mail
     
    Maybe, you should try cutting that signature down a little bit. This is just my opinion.
     
    Thilak Rao
     
    On 27-Oct-2011, at 5:58 PM, Zamir Anjum wrote:
     

     

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