Thursday, May 29, 2014

[WD&D] Digest for sitedesign@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 1 topic

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    Ian Jamieson <ian@cogocreative.co.uk> May 28 08:18AM +0200  

    I'd need to know more. Are you talking about a grid based layout?

     

    Artist <SitePro@gmail.com> May 28 11:26AM -0700  

    Yes. It is grid based, but theoretically I could also make it responsive
    with a different set of css instructions for mobile based handhelds.
     
    A perfect example is at
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/
     
    Notice how there is a line right through the layout and there is no menu?
     
    The actual file that I am playing around TRYING to make some sort of layout
    with is at...
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/layout.html
     
    That one is driving me nuts. It IS supposed to be a CSS tables build
    layout, but for some reason the jumbled mess comes out, and I cannot make
    sense of it.
     
    As I said, I have many such examples. Even the WDADG.org site is one of
    them. Right now, the single column layout is what you see, but the
    problem is that I am having the same issue with the double column version.
     
    So, as these are related to using CSS <div> correctly, and I have NEVER
    been able to do it right because I can't get a handle on it, I am not
    looking for a fellow designer to correct my mistakes and leave me in the
    dark (which is always what happens here). I am looking for a good
    tutorial on how to use CSS to structure my HTML <div> tags correctly and
    appropriately that will allow me to walk away with a "that makes sense, I
    can't believe it was always that simple." kinda feeling.
     
    CSS layouts have been around a very long time, and even though I have been
    using them, if I can't figure it out for each and every instance I go to
    use them, it is starting to make less and less sense in doing so. I'm
    embarrassed by my own work, my inability to get certain things right, and I
    JUST WANT TO GET IT.
     
    Thank you.
     
    -Doug
     
     
    On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:18:37 AM UTC-5, COGO wrote:

     

    Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 28 01:42PM -0500  

    I am not sure background: none; is the right choice in a lot of instances (I'd likely use background: transparent; or background: inherit -- depending on what you want to achieve.
     
    You have no floated elements, which is a good thing, but the positioning may need to be tweaked.
     
    I can take a closer look later this evening. I struggled with moving away from tables back a few years and like you, I couldn't get things to lay down the way I wanted them at first, but I finally had m lightbulb moment, and so will you. :)))
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    www.pixelita.com
    ________________________________________
    From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com [sitedesign@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Artist [SitePro@gmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:26 PM
    To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: [WD&D] Layout Tutotial
     
    Yes. It is grid based, but theoretically I could also make it responsive with a different set of css instructions for mobile based handhelds.
     
    A perfect example is at
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/
     
    Notice how there is a line right through the layout and there is no menu?
     
    The actual file that I am playing around TRYING to make some sort of layout with is at...
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/layout.html
     
    That one is driving me nuts. It IS supposed to be a CSS tables build layout, but for some reason the jumbled mess comes out, and I cannot make sense of it.
     
    As I said, I have many such examples. Even the WDADG.org site is one of them. Right now, the single column layout is what you see, but the problem is that I am having the same issue with the double column version.
     
    So, as these are related to using CSS <div> correctly, and I have NEVER been able to do it right because I can't get a handle on it, I am not looking for a fellow designer to correct my mistakes and leave me in the dark (which is always what happens here). I am looking for a good tutorial on how to use CSS to structure my HTML <div> tags correctly and appropriately that will allow me to walk away with a "that makes sense, I can't believe it was always that simple." kinda feeling.
     
    CSS layouts have been around a very long time, and even though I have been using them, if I can't figure it out for each and every instance I go to use them, it is starting to make less and less sense in doing so. I'm embarrassed by my own work, my inability to get certain things right, and I JUST WANT TO GET IT.
     
    Thank you.
     
    -Doug
     
     
    On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:18:37 AM UTC-5, COGO wrote:
     
    I'd need to know more. Are you talking about a grid based layout?
     
    On May 27, 2014 11:16 PM, "Joni Mueller" wrote:
    Can you give me a sample of what you mean? What kind of layouts are you attempting to create? Do they need to be responsive as well?
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    www.pixelita.com<http://www.pixelita.com>
    ________________________________________
    From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com> [sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Artist
    Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:10 PM
    To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: [WD&D] Layout Tutotial
     
    l have had a great deal of difficulty stacking CSS divs. I always have, but eventually I'd figure it out and get it right. Unfortunately, I have about half a dozen website layouts nearly done t to use for myself now, but they all suck because there gaps between the blocks (divs).
     
    Can anyone point me to a decent CSS layout tutorial that will finally explain how to style divs correctly so that they are finally usable to me... so that I can finally get it and actually get something done?
     
    Thanks!
     
    Doug
     
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    Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 28 01:45PM -0500  

    Here are some tutorials that discuss the box model so hopefully this will help you sort it out. I know you've been building sites for quite a while so forgive me if these links seem elementary. Some of the material discussed is basic, but who can memorize all the behaviors?
     
    http://css-tricks.com/the-css-box-model/
     
    http://learn.shayhowe.com/html-css/opening-the-box-model/
     
    http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/
     
    http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2011/09/19/css3-flexible-box-layout-explained/
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    www.pixelita.com
    ________________________________________
    From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com [sitedesign@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Artist [SitePro@gmail.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:26 PM
    To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: [WD&D] Layout Tutotial
     
    Yes. It is grid based, but theoretically I could also make it responsive with a different set of css instructions for mobile based handhelds.
     
    A perfect example is at
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/
     
    Notice how there is a line right through the layout and there is no menu?
     
    The actual file that I am playing around TRYING to make some sort of layout with is at...
     
    http://www.s-dakota.com/layout.html
     
    That one is driving me nuts. It IS supposed to be a CSS tables build layout, but for some reason the jumbled mess comes out, and I cannot make sense of it.
     
    As I said, I have many such examples. Even the WDADG.org site is one of them. Right now, the single column layout is what you see, but the problem is that I am having the same issue with the double column version.
     
    So, as these are related to using CSS <div> correctly, and I have NEVER been able to do it right because I can't get a handle on it, I am not looking for a fellow designer to correct my mistakes and leave me in the dark (which is always what happens here). I am looking for a good tutorial on how to use CSS to structure my HTML <div> tags correctly and appropriately that will allow me to walk away with a "that makes sense, I can't believe it was always that simple." kinda feeling.
     
    CSS layouts have been around a very long time, and even though I have been using them, if I can't figure it out for each and every instance I go to use them, it is starting to make less and less sense in doing so. I'm embarrassed by my own work, my inability to get certain things right, and I JUST WANT TO GET IT.
     
    Thank you.
     
    -Doug
     
     
    On Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:18:37 AM UTC-5, COGO wrote:
     
    I'd need to know more. Are you talking about a grid based layout?
     
    On May 27, 2014 11:16 PM, "Joni Mueller" wrote:
    Can you give me a sample of what you mean? What kind of layouts are you attempting to create? Do they need to be responsive as well?
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    www.pixelita.com<http://www.pixelita.com>
    ________________________________________
    From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com> [sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Artist
    Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:10 PM
    To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>
    Subject: [WD&D] Layout Tutotial
     
    l have had a great deal of difficulty stacking CSS divs. I always have, but eventually I'd figure it out and get it right. Unfortunately, I have about half a dozen website layouts nearly done t to use for myself now, but they all suck because there gaps between the blocks (divs).
     
    Can anyone point me to a decent CSS layout tutorial that will finally explain how to style divs correctly so that they are finally usable to me... so that I can finally get it and actually get something done?
     
    Thanks!
     
    Doug
     
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    "Michael J. Fuhrman" <mfuhrman@enetarch.net> May 28 12:17PM -0700  

    Doug,
     
    A long time ago, I build a javascript and css library that created
    windows menus using DIVs and SPANS. It's really old code, but it could
    provide you with a clue to what is missing.
     
    If you'd like to look at it, contact me through skype. ENetArch
     
    Mike,
     
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    On 5/28/2014 11:26 AM, Artist wrote:

     

    Liam Kenneth <liam.kenneth89@gmail.com> May 28 09:35PM +0100  

    if you remove the table-cell from #ContentArea and the br tag above it. the
    layout then looks pretty good!
     
     
    On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Michael J. Fuhrman

     

    Liam Kenneth <liam.kenneth89@gmail.com> May 28 09:40PM +0100  

    [image: Inline image 1]
     
     

     

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