Tuesday, May 29, 2012

[WD&D] Digest for sitedesign@googlegroups.com - 17 Messages in 2 Topics

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    Binaek Sarkar <binaek89@gmail.com> May 29 12:48AM +0530  

    If memory serves right, favicon was started by Microsoft, so if its not
    coming then we must be doing something wrong.
     
    By default, *favicon.ico *should reside in your webroot directory.
     
    Suppose someone visits a page in your website like:
    *http://www.yourwebsite.com/some_fancy_path/some_fancy_file.ext*
    *
    *
    The browser will automatically send a GET request to
    *http://www.**yourwebsite.com/favicon.ico*
    to get your icon file, which it may use.
     
    So, if you put your icon file in the webroot, clear your browser cache (you
    need to do this), then it should work.
     
    Regards
    Binaek Sarkar
    Foundation
    http://www.foundation.net.in/

     

    Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 28 03:04PM -0500  

    > Binaek Sarkar
    > Foundation
    > http://www.foundation.net.in/
     
    Just as a note... to do this he has to use no rel link to any shortcut icon
    in his code, or needs to use the code indicated:
     
    <link rel="shortcut icon" href="http://example.com/myicon.ico" />

     

    Stuart Moules <stu.moules@googlemail.com> May 28 11:23PM +0100  

    Thanks,
     
    I viewed/inspected the file info on windows explorer and it was still a
    .png, I don't know how but I changed it to Icon on one of my past attempts
    at renaming the file. So I opened it up in paint and saved it as a gif and
    now its an icon. You may have guessed I am no windows visual basic guru.
    Also I had my code before the ifIE --end if subroutine code, I don't know
    if that would affect the link or not. Still no joy, I am calling it a night
    now, 11:20pm here.
     
    Thanks a lot for all your help and professional expertise, Stu.
     

     

    Christopher Stalnaker <christopherstalnaker@gmail.com> May 28 03:47PM -0700  

    Ha e you tried restarting ur computer?

     

    Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 28 06:35PM -0500  

    Something else to do when you are working on a web site and your changes don't seem to stick:
     
    At the command prompt (PC):
    ipconfig /flushdns
     
    In Terminal (Mac):
    dscacheutil -flushcache
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    http://www.pixelita.com
    ________________________________________
    From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com [sitedesign@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Moules [stu.moules@googlemail.com]
    Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 5:23 PM
    To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: [WD&D] ico file in I.E. 7
     
    Thanks,
     
    I viewed/inspected the file info on windows explorer and it was still a .png, I don't know how but I changed it to Icon on one of my past attempts at renaming the file. So I opened it up in paint and saved it as a gif and now its an icon. You may have guessed I am no windows visual basic guru. Also I had my code before the ifIE --end if subroutine code, I don't know if that would affect the link or not. Still no joy, I am calling it a night now, 11:20pm here.
     
    Thanks a lot for all your help and professional expertise, Stu.
     
    On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com<mailto:joni@jonimueller.com>> wrote:
    I use a free program called PNG2ICO to create favicons, FWIW.
     
    http://download.cnet.com/Png2ico/3000-2192_4-10524651.html
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    joni@pixelita.com<mailto:joni@pixelita.com>
    Sent from my iPhone
     
     
    On May 28, 2012, at 4:07 PM, "Artist" <sitepro@gmail.com<mailto:sitepro@gmail.com>> wrote:
     
    Yeah, the code is right. Having your domain name in the path is also good form according to the W3C.org<http://W3C.org>, so the code is fine.
     
    I dragged the bookmark from Chrome (as I could see it there) to my desktop and loaded the icon into AW Icons Pro and it told me there was no image there.
     
    Maybe that was Chrome's fault? I don't know if it allows dragging an icon to the desktop, or not. I know there is an icon there, I viewed it in the browser.
     
    Maybe try something like: http://www.favico.com/ for the conversion?
     
    Doug Peters
    (605) 331-0808<tel:%28605%29%20331-0808>
    http://www.Doug-Peters.com http://www.twitter.com/Domainating
    http://www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Peters/1628191759 http://www.W3DN.com http://www.DomainHostmaster.com http://www.Domainers.Name http://www.PremiumBrand.Name http://www.fontjournal.com http://www.StandardLogo.com http://www.PhotoshopPros.com http://www.Twidrops.com<http://www.twidrops.com> http://www.GlossaryIndex.com<http://www.SymbioticDesign.com>
     
     
    On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM, Artist <sitepro@gmail.com<mailto:sitepro@gmail.com>> wrote:
    On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Binaek Sarkar <binaek89@gmail.com<mailto:binaek89@gmail.com>> wrote:
    If memory serves right, favicon was started by Microsoft, so if its not coming then we must be doing something wrong.
     
    By default, favicon.ico should reside in your webroot directory.
     
    Suppose someone visits a page in your website like:
    http://www.yourwebsite.com/some_fancy_path/some_fancy_file.ext
     
    The browser will automatically send a GET request to
    http://www.yourwebsite.com/favicon.ico<http://yourwebsite.com/favicon.ico>
    to get your icon file, which it may use.
     
    So, if you put your icon file in the webroot, clear your browser cache (you need to do this), then it should work.
     
    Regards
    Binaek Sarkar
    Foundation
    http://www.foundation.net.in/
     
    Just as a note... to do this he has to use no rel link to any shortcut icon in his code, or needs to use the code indicated:
     
     
     
    <link rel="shortcut icon"
    href="http://example.com/myicon.ico" />
     
     
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    Idesign Team <milovicilija96@gmail.com> May 28 05:32AM -0700  

    Well You all must see on of my site..
    Very proud!!!This is it <http://www.i-design.hostoi.com>

     

    Liam Kenneth <liam.kenneth89@gmail.com> May 28 03:09PM +0100  

    nice effects, how did you do the custom scroll bar?
     

     

    chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 28 10:39PM +0800  

    Hi,
     
    A dislike giving reviews because I really do not enjoy upsetting people.
    However, you asked for a review. I am not going to just critique your
    site, I will try to offer some solutions as well
     
    I took a look at your site and the first thing that came to mind is when
    the site opens the user only sees a loading bar. For a lot of users, this
    is a turn off and results in a back button being clicked. I realize it is
    javascript, but I had to look at the source to find out. I thought it was
    FLASH at first.
    Some web designers put the scripts at the bottom of the code right before
    the </body> tag so that the main elements of the site load and the user
    does not "bounce".
     
    The images in your shaker slideshow are pretty big (79k), maybe you can
    optimize them or make them smaller so your page loads faster
     
    The menu is nice, but maybe you could style the text a bit and make a
    "Home" menu item so people can get back to your main page.
     
    I had to browse the site in English. I noticed many misspellings of words.
    I realize that being American we have a different style of English than
    Europe, but some of the words misspelled are misspelled in either style.
    Maybe you can find a native English speaker to translate your English
    version so that your message is not lost in translation. It is important to
    potential customers that you are able to deliver a site without spelling
    and grammatical errors.
     
    I am going to point you towards bootstrap by twitter. Go to
    www.bootswatch.com and check it out. You can build a nice responsive site
    using bottstrap/bootswatch. The great thing about bootswatch is that it
    uses bootstrap , which is a nice interface, and it has jQuery plugins out
    of the box. It just works.Embrace HTML5 and CSS3. Embrace mobile because
    your customers will want a mobile presence.
     
    Here is a bootstrap site that I templated last week for a company in the US
    http://m.clearpassage.com/index.html Open it up in your standard browser
    width and then re-size your browser and watch what happens to the text and
    images. Also watch the menu above as you do this. This site is their mobile
    version, but it can be viewed on any device and look good. Thy are not
    using any fancy plugins. It is simple, but effective.
     
    Good luck!
     
    Chris
     
     
     
     
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    Chris

     

    Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 28 11:28AM -0500  

    I'll just have to take your word for it, Chris. I couldn't get the page to load at all (Firefox on Mac). You bring up some good points about responsive design. Any ideas, preferences for responsive image handling?
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    http://www.pixelita.com
     
    From: chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com<mailto:customsitepro@gmail.com>>
    Reply-To: WD&D Group <sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>>
    To: WD&D Group <sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>>
    Subject: Re: [WD&D] Must see!
     
    [snipped]
    I am going to point you towards bootstrap by twitter. Go to www.bootswatch.com<http://www.bootswatch.com> and check it out. You can build a nice responsive site using bottstrap/bootswatch. The great thing about bootswatch is that it uses bootstrap , which is a nice interface, and it has jQuery plugins out of the box. It just works.Embrace HTML5 and CSS3. Embrace mobile because your customers will want a mobile presence.
     
    Here is a bootstrap site that I templated last week for a company in the US http://m.clearpassage.com/index.html Open it up in your standard browser width and then re-size your browser and watch what happens to the text and images. Also watch the menu above as you do this. This site is their mobile version, but it can be viewed on any device and look good. Thy are not using any fancy plugins. It is simple, but effective.
    [snipped]
     
    On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Idesign Team <milovicilija96@gmail.com<mailto:milovicilija96@gmail.com>> wrote:
    Well You all must see on of my site..
    Very proud!!!This is it<http://www.i-design.hostoi.com>
     
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    chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 29 12:40AM +0800  

    The best way I have found to handle images is to *not specify* an image
    size in the code. The browser will figure it out. Then I add the following
    to the css file:
     
    img {
    max-width: 100%;
    height: auto;
    }
     
    If I want to make a header 960 wide, it will automatically scale down as
    the device size changes.
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Ash <ash.mohatt@gmail.com> May 28 12:30PM -0600  

    I'm timing out too, Chrome on Mac
     
    I'll just have to take your word for it, Chris. I couldn't get the page to

     

    Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 28 02:55PM -0500  

    I have some pretty standard web design errors that I think need to be
    addressed in Chrome on Windows...
     
    #1) The logo... the I looks like a J because of the Blackletter style of
    script.
    #2) Way too many English word misspells.
    #3) Why wasn't I given the choice to go to the English site before the
    Polish version loaded?
    #4) No padding around the textual content.
    #5) Way too many different styles of fonts used in the graphics. It looks
    like a mish-mash of stuff that was collected and presented there, not a
    themed design for a design/development company/freelancer.
    #6) I have to point out this:
    http://www.i-design.hostoi.com/Web%20design.php Such a URL is hard to
    remember because it is a subdomain, it contains a capital letter on the Web
    and I think a space (which is given in code), and then no capital on
    design. This is being picky, but it ia also professionalism to clean this
    stuff up unless you are using a system with really long URLS like Google or
    Facebook and are so popular it doesn't matter.
    #7) The use of transition effects in the presentation is kind of sickening.
    Wait, I'm hungry. But it still isn't a pro move, you should stick to one
    effect, or two, and use it/both. What you are doing is like everyone's
    power point presentation. They have to use all the transitions no matter
    what, to show how cool they are, but each is so different from another it
    discombulates the style of the presentation. I made the same mistake when
    I got a Video Toaster. Luckily, I took video production classes that
    straightened Me right out.
     
    OK, that's a nice list of visuals to get you started. There are some good
    points to the site, neat little tricks, but you have to look like you can
    design, and it just doesn't look like that right now. Work on those and
    you will have a start.
     
    -Doug
     
    Doug Peters
    (605) 331-0808
    http://www.Doug-Peters.com http://www.twitter.com/Domainating
    http://www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Peters/1628191759
    http://www.W3DN.com http://www.DomainHostmaster.com
    http://www.Domainers.Name http://www.PremiumBrand.Name
    http://www.fontjournal.com http://www.StandardLogo.com
    http://www.PhotoshopPros.com
    http://www.Twidrops.com<http://www.twidrops.com>
    http://www.GlossaryIndex.com <http://www.SymbioticDesign.com>

     

    Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 28 04:06PM -0500  

    I still cannot get the site to load, not even from my iPhone. :(
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    joni@pixelita.com<mailto:joni@pixelita.com>
    Sent from my iPhone
     
     
    On May 28, 2012, at 11:29 AM, "Joni Mueller" <joni@jonimueller.com<mailto:joni@jonimueller.com>> wrote:
     
    I'll just have to take your word for it, Chris. I couldn't get the page to load at all (Firefox on Mac). You bring up some good points about responsive design. Any ideas, preferences for responsive image handling?
     
    Joni Mueller
    Pixelita Designs
    http://www.pixelita.com
     
    From: chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com<mailto:customsitepro@gmail.com>>
    Reply-To: WD&D Group <sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>>
    To: WD&D Group <sitedesign@googlegroups.com<mailto:sitedesign@googlegroups.com>>
    Subject: Re: [WD&D] Must see!
     
    [snipped]
    I am going to point you towards bootstrap by twitter. Go to www.bootswatch.com<http://www.bootswatch.com> and check it out. You can build a nice responsive site using bottstrap/bootswatch. The great thing about bootswatch is that it uses bootstrap , which is a nice interface, and it has jQuery plugins out of the box. It just works.Embrace HTML5 and CSS3. Embrace mobile because your customers will want a mobile presence.
     
    Here is a bootstrap site that I templated last week for a company in the US http://m.clearpassage.com/index.html Open it up in your standard browser width and then re-size your browser and watch what happens to the text and images. Also watch the menu above as you do this. This site is their mobile version, but it can be viewed on any device and look good. Thy are not using any fancy plugins. It is simple, but effective.
    [snipped]
     
    On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Idesign Team <milovicilija96@gmail.com<mailto:milovicilija96@gmail.com>> wrote:
    Well You all must see on of my site..
    Very proud!!!This is it<http://www.i-design.hostoi.com>
     
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    Christopher Stalnaker <christopherstalnaker@gmail.com> May 28 03:51PM -0700  

    Wont load from DROID either. :(

     

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