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[WD&D] Digest for sitedesign@googlegroups.com - 5 Messages in 2 Topics

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    Stuart Moules <stu.moules@googlemail.com> May 24 11:19PM +0100  

    Hi Doug,
     
    I just doug out my Collins English dictionary as my Oxford mini English
    dictionary/thesaurus and my websters reference library didn't even entry
    'Gothic'. Apparently it means to type "using a heavy ornate typeface",
    ornate meaning highly decorated. Maybe you could index all the super ornate
    typefaces and label them Gothic. I know what you mean about sans though as
    I have 'Franklin Gothic Medium' and 'Letter Gothic Standard' opentype on my
    machine and they are sans but probably more ornate than the the regular
    typefaces of 'Letter' and 'Franklin'.
     
    Hope this helps some more and I didn't waste too much of your time when I
    hit the bottle and started waffling.
     
    Regards, Stuart.
     

     

    Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 24 07:43PM -0500  

    I don't know what Gothic means in script, but in typography it is
    sans-serif.
     
    Yeah, in hand written script, it is very complex, like the old german
    style, Black Letter.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter
     
    But in Typography it is sans, means the same thing. Confusing, I know. To
    complicate matters, Copperplate is said to be a gothic style font, but it
    isn't, it has glyphs that accentuate the abrupt stops in the ends of the
    letters, but those embellishments are the same flourishing that Roman
    style, or serif fonts are.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans-serif
     
    When looking at the above link, Gothic seems to be out-modded?
     
    But look at the write-up on Franklyn Gothic...
     
    "Gothic" is an increasingly archaic term meaning sans-serif.
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Gothic
     
    OK, so you have a point. Which brings me back to...
     
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copperplate_Gothic
     
    While termed a "Gothic" (another term for sans-serif), the face has small
    glyphic serifs that act to emphasize the blunt terminus of vertical and
    horizontal strokes.
     
    So it just goes to show that I shouldn't get my info from Wikipedia. :P
     
    I still have to figure it out, but I can't just use "Gothic/sans-serif" as
    a category. That much seems sure.
     
    I wonder if Roman/serif would work? Probably not.
     
    Art. Why should we classify it? To make it easier to find. LOL
     
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    On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Stuart Moules <stu.moules@googlemail.com>
    wrote:
    > dictionary/thesaurus and my websters reference library didn't even entry
    > 'Gothic'. Apparently it means to type "using a heavy ornate typeface",
    > ornate meaning highly decorated. Maybe you could index all the super
    ornate
    > typefaces and label them Gothic. I know what you mean about sans though
    as I
     
    > On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> wrote:
     
    >> Hi Stuart...
     
    >> I just added the category Gothic along with some others. It's going to
    be
    >> tough to update the ones that are currently in the system, though. I see
    >> Gothic as Sans Serif and there is a Sans category. Roman would be
    serifs.
    >> Stylized
     
    >> The thing is, there were already plenty there and the block of 12,430
    >> fonts that came with the package were pretty well categorized. It will
    be a
    >> future release before the software is updated to conveniently allow
    editing
    >> requested, as well.
     
    >> So I am lobbying for at least those updates and some others. For now I
    >> have to disable some fonts that I would like to have online, but
    eventually
     
    >>> Hi Doug,
    >>> If you are looking are looking for 1 more search criteria for your list
    >>> just to be even, then maybe you should put a search for 'gothic' in.
    Which
    >>> is is a type of oldschool typeface for calligrapher's and also a style
    of
    >>> typeface, much seen in type sites from what I remember, and may just be
    the
    >>> same as searching for 'calligraphy', which itself is a broad subject.
    Maybe
    >>> design your own gothic typeface, and copperplate too, seeing as they are
    >>> probably public domain by now anyway. Unless you want to leave the odd
    space
     
    >>>> Hello all...
     
    >>>> I started a font site and although I am still troubleshooting it (there
    >>>> are a few font archives that were bogus, or the font itself was
    bogus), I'd
    >>>> if you click on them you will be presented with a character map of the
    >>>> rendered characters available.
     
    >>>> These fonts are for the Windows and Linux PCs, Macs need to run the
    font
    >>>> through a freeware converter, which I will put online soon. Right now
    I am
     
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    umiwangu <umiwangu@gmail.com> May 24 05:30AM -0700  

    Here's another question... my SSL certificate works both with domain.com
    and www.domain.com, but GeoTrust only validates the certificate (with that
    little "live" GIF) if a page from www.domain.com requests validation. I
    think this is because when I registered for the cert, I entered
    www.domain.com as the domain.
     
    I've seen a couple pages on how to use IIS to force browsers from
    domain.com to www.domain.com.
     
    Anyone have any experience with this?
     
    Thanks!
     
    Seth

     

    umiwangu <umiwangu@gmail.com> May 24 11:51AM -0700  

    I probably should have clarified.
     
    *.domain.com is covered by the cert, but for some reason the validation
    graphic that you can add to your site only works when it's with
    www.domain.com. It is kind of strange, yes. Maybe I should ask Geotrust
    about it.
     
    As for htaccess, I've never really used that, but it would make things a
    heck of a lot easier if I could just put entries in there for SSL, rather
    than using the ASP code.
     
    I don't want the whole site to be SSL, but only certain pages.
     
    Thanks for the help. Anyone else?
     
    Seth
     
    On Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:49:36 AM UTC-4, Artist wrote:

     

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