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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 02:46AM +0800
As I have mentioned. I build mostly in joomla. About 4 years ago, I started
building about 60 Joomla 1.5 websites. I am now rebuilding them in 2.5
Here is the old site:
http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org<http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/>
Here is the new site (in progress) :
http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/
We are using more Jquery in the new sites. If you tried Joomla 1.0 or 1.5
and did not care for the clunky admin interface, you owe it to yourself to
take 2.5 for a spin
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- Ilija Milovic <milovicilija96@gmail.com> May 29 09:14PM +0200
Can i add here some other elements and to keep them resized too?
How to add some transition effects on slideshow?
How to make some menu transition?
And have You some tutorials on it ?
- "George Gral" <george@encoreent.net> May 29 12:17PM -0700
Hi Chris.
My site used to be in Joomla but I had issues with it and when I tried to
have it added to my ip provider they had no idea how to deal with it.
I did find the 1.0 and 1.5 clunky and it did not really give me the options
I wanted. It was limited in too many ways.
I am open to it though.
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
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Subject: [WD&D] 1 of my current projects
As I have mentioned. I build mostly in joomla. About 4 years ago, I started
building about 60 Joomla 1.5 websites. I am now rebuilding them in 2.5
Here is the old site: http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org
<http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/>
Here is the new site (in progress) :
http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/
We are using more Jquery in the new sites. If you tried Joomla 1.0 or 1.5
and did not care for the clunky admin interface, you owe it to yourself to
take 2.5 for a spin
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 03:17AM +0800
It uses jqueryplugins, so just about anything you can imagine you can do.
Read the docs at http://bootswatch.com
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 03:24AM +0800
George,
If your hosting provider is using PLESK to manage the server, there are
some serious issues with Joomla due to the fact that every time you upload
a component, plugin, or module to the site, PLESK will give APACHE
ownership of the files and you cannot edit them. The host can write a cron
job to run that changes the ownership back to you automatically, but that
solution is resource intensive if done often and inconvenient if not.
Who is your host?
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- Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 29 02:24PM -0500
Never wrapped my head around Joomla! I stick with WordPress and CMS Made Simple. CMS-MS is flying under the radar for now and is not as prone to hack attacks as the popular WordPress is, and because of its easy backend, I put most of my small biz and NFPs on it. They love it. We are even now working on developing an ecommerce site with it.
I don't create any sites that aren't based on one CMS or another. Those are the two we focus on, but we have also built with TextPattern, ExpressionEngine and Get Simple CMS (that's one you might like; small footprint, flat file [doesn't use a database]; easy peasy to install and update).
Joni Mueller
Pixelita Designs
http://www.pixelita.com
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From: sitedesign@googlegroups.com [sitedesign@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Gral [george@encoreent.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:17 PM
To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [WD&D] 1 of my current projects
Hi Chris.
My site used to be in Joomla but I had issues with it and when I tried to have it added to my ip provider they had no idea how to deal with it.
I did find the 1.0 and 1.5 clunky and it did not really give me the options I wanted. It was limited in too many ways.
I am open to it though.
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
- "George Gral" <george@encoreent.net> May 29 12:33PM -0700
My host is Cbeyond.
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:24 PM
To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [WD&D] 1 of my current projects
George,
If your hosting provider is using PLESK to manage the server, there are some
serious issues with Joomla due to the fact that every time you upload a
component, plugin, or module to the site, PLESK will give APACHE ownership
of the files and you cannot edit them. The host can write a cron job to run
that changes the ownership back to you automatically, but that solution is
resource intensive if done often and inconvenient if not.
Who is your host?
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM, chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com>
wrote:
It uses jqueryplugins, so just about anything you can imagine you can do.
Read the docs at http://bootswatch.com
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Ilija Milovic <milovicilija96@gmail.com>
wrote:
Can i add here some other elements and to keep them resized too?
How to add some transition effects on slideshow?
How to make some menu transition?
And have You some tutorials on it ?
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM, chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com>
wrote:
As I have mentioned. I build mostly in joomla. About 4 years ago, I started
building about 60 Joomla 1.5 websites. I am now rebuilding them in 2.5
Here is the old site: http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org
<http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/>
Here is the new site (in progress) :
http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/
We are using more Jquery in the new sites. If you tried Joomla 1.0 or 1.5
and did not care for the clunky admin interface, you owe it to yourself to
take 2.5 for a spin
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 03:47AM +0800
George,
The Cbeyond website currently claims they support Joomla
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 03:58AM +0800
@Joni,
Wordpress has one thing good going for it. It is a corporation, therefore
they have tight regulations for inclusion in their plugin directory.
Joomla is a foundation. Things can get hard sometimes when extension
developers use sloppy code. Reviews are useless as shills commentspam the
directories (all directories everywhere). You have to find what works and
fix what does not.
My main contract emails me about once a week with an "I hate Joomla " in
the subject.. It use to be almost everyday, so I guess either I or Joomla
is getting better. When I get a "Joomla sucks" email from him I reply with
" I agree, lets go with Drupal!" That quiets him down for awhile.
Honestly, I almost gave up on Joomla at version 1.5.22 but then 2.5 came
out and it renewed my faith.
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- "George Gral" <george@encoreent.net> May 29 01:54PM -0700
I know they do and then when I sent them my Joomla web site they could not
do anything and had no one on staff to be able to upload it to their
servers.
They are good at T1 and phone service but Joomla NO WAY>
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
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George,
The Cbeyond website currently claims they support Joomla
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:33 AM, George Gral <george@encoreent.net> wrote:
My host is Cbeyond.
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:24 PM
To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [WD&D] 1 of my current projects
George,
If your hosting provider is using PLESK to manage the server, there are some
serious issues with Joomla due to the fact that every time you upload a
component, plugin, or module to the site, PLESK will give APACHE ownership
of the files and you cannot edit them. The host can write a cron job to run
that changes the ownership back to you automatically, but that solution is
resource intensive if done often and inconvenient if not.
Who is your host?
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:17 AM, chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com>
wrote:
It uses jqueryplugins, so just about anything you can imagine you can do.
Read the docs at http://bootswatch.com
On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Ilija Milovic <milovicilija96@gmail.com>
wrote:
Can i add here some other elements and to keep them resized too?
How to add some transition effects on slideshow?
How to make some menu transition?
And have You some tutorials on it ?
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 8:46 PM, chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com>
wrote:
As I have mentioned. I build mostly in joomla. About 4 years ago, I started
building about 60 Joomla 1.5 websites. I am now rebuilding them in 2.5
Here is the old site: http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org
<http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/>
Here is the new site (in progress) :
http://sanantoniobartendingschool.org/rebuild/
We are using more Jquery in the new sites. If you tried Joomla 1.0 or 1.5
and did not care for the clunky admin interface, you owe it to yourself to
take 2.5 for a spin
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 05:05AM +0800
from what I read on forums, they are not that good at hosting any sites. I
host, and I can reccomend GOOD cheap hosting for you
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- Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 29 05:30PM -0500
Chris...
Please do not recommend hosts, or ask to recommend hosts. No matter how
good or cheap they are, most of us have our own resources. You don't want
to be stepping on any toes. Thank you.
Doug Peters
(605) 331-0808
http://www.Doug-Peters.com http://www.twitter.com/Domainating
http://www.facebook.com/people/Douglas-Peters/1628191759
http://www.W3DN.com http://www.DomainHostmaster.com
http://www.Domainers.Name http://www.PremiumBrand.Name
http://www.fontjournal.com http://www.StandardLogo.com
http://www.PhotoshopPros.com
http://www.Twidrops.com<http://www.twidrops.com>
http://www.GlossaryIndex.com <http://www.SymbioticDesign.com>
- Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 29 05:34PM -0500
Now, everytime I clicked the link to go to the old site, the new one
showed-up. Is the new site live? Oh, no, you must have bled one link over
to another.
I'd say that "That is a fantastic improvement, though the old one wasn't so
bad, it certainly has been outdated with the new one."
Cool. Good job.
- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 29 06:55PM +0800
Doug,
I thought my review was tough! Living abroad has taught me quite a bit
about regional tastes. What we (Americans) like, other people find bland.
In some countries, they like bold contrasting colors and textures. I
believe it is due to a lack of choices in times of the past. Have a look at
this old classic Wendy's commercial:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ for reference. What makes us
cringe, is entirely acceptable in some markets.
My wife and I are shocked and amazed what some people wear here in The
Philippines. Any given day of the week you can see a young lady wearing her
finest outfit which consists of something like a camouflage top with a
floral skirt, or maybe plaid and camo, plaid and floral, floral and stripe.
Sometimes even a combo of three items, one each of camo, flora, and stripe
or plaid. To top things off she might wear zebra-print high heels.
Creative wardrobing is so persistent here that degree programs for
professionals here have courses that detail how to match your clothes
properly.
What makes some people cringe is very attractive to others. We dwell on
subtleties such as shades - We love to use Adobe Kuler (all designers
should!) and others think the more color the better. They are "Loud and
Proud" and it works for them in their market or niche. I have some sites I
have designed and built that are high contrast with black and bold colors.
They are built specifically for a target audience and reflect that.
I guess I am saying that your color commentary, while entirely technically
accurate from our viewpoint was pretty harsh. I realize the color scheme
makes your eyes (and mine) bleed but I didn't mention that because Ididn't
want him to feel like he was being bullied.
Ilija has emailed me on the side. I have decided to try to help him out if
I can. I am going to create an instance of his English version in
Bootstrap for him and post it. It will be a quick and dirty, but it should
help him out. He can download a zip and see the code..
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- Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 29 07:37AM -0500
Jeepers, I thought I was being kind.
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http://www.fontjournal.com http://www.StandardLogo.com
http://www.PhotoshopPros.com
http://www.Twidrops.com<http://www.twidrops.com>
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- Ernest Okojie <nestkojex@gmail.com> May 29 02:04PM +0100
Good day Chris, i visited www.bootswatch.com as you advised. got the
CSS files to download but there was no corresponding html to apply the
css to, or am i to build that from scratch myself?
It also introduced me to LESS style formatting as an alternative to
css, what's your stance on this?
The Kuler stuff was pretty cool but it offered me the themed colours
in an adobe file format i could not use, i was expecting it would
render the colour codes in plain text.
I really like your constructive criticism on this site and the
solutions proffered.
Thanks.
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 29 09:48PM +0800
Ernest,
I had a lot of time to reflect on our exchange we had that got so ugly.
What did I accomplish by attacking you? Nothing. You may have never came
back to this group and that would have been a shame. What can I accomplish
by instead actually offering constructive critiques and offering to help? A
Whole lot. A side benefit of teaching others is that oftentimes you learn
in the process.
Most of us are freelancers here and are depending on the web for income. I
would say that none of us are in direct competition with each other. I have
a comfortable income. I am fortunate. I think I need to give back, and so
I have made a pledge to myself that I will help others along in their
desire to learn.
I realize that the bootswatch site download is not actually a working copy.
I am going to email you a bootswatch / bootstrap zip for you to play with.
The template will be the orange and white design. You can download the
other bootswatch css files and replace the ones in the file I am sending
you.
I am working on the bootstrap design of the i-design site right now and
will post it on my server and provide a link to the zip for others to
download if they choose.
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- Ernest Okojie <nestkojex@gmail.com> May 29 03:09PM +0100
Thanks a million lot Chris. I really appreciate
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- Joni Mueller <joni@jonimueller.com> May 29 12:51PM -0500
Some here wouldn't last five minutes on a Usenet group. :) Maybe that's why I don't take offense at what I see posted here. It's all pretty tame compared to alt.html.critique, or what that used to be "back in the day." :)
I still haven't been able to get the OP's site to come up so I assume he's working on some fixes.
When you come on a group, especially one that has a fair amount of professionals (i.e., those for whom web design and development is a living), you have to expect that you'll get some good advice. Which may or may not be candy-coated. And it may or may not be something that you particularly want to hear. But if it's constructive, even if it's terse or a bit "mean," it has value if you take that knowledge and apply it to your work. I'd rather have ONE person tell me my web site sucks and then proceed to tell me WHY and HOW I can fix it, than a thousand people saying, oh, yeah, it looks great, and leave it at that.
But that's just me. :) (And it's a huge reason you will have a hard time getting rid of me, try though you might!) :D
Joni Mueller
Pixelita Designs
http://www.pixelita.com
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To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [WD&D] Must see!
Ernest,
I had a lot of time to reflect on our exchange we had that got so ugly. What did I accomplish by attacking you? Nothing. You may have never came back to this group and that would have been a shame. What can I accomplish by instead actually offering constructive critiques and offering to help? A Whole lot. A side benefit of teaching others is that oftentimes you learn in the process.
Most of us are freelancers here and are depending on the web for income. I would say that none of us are in direct competition with each other. I have a comfortable income. I am fortunate. I think I need to give back, and so I have made a pledge to myself that I will help others along in their desire to learn.
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 02:07AM +0800
Ilija and anyone else interested:
I thought it was going to be a relaxing week, but murphy decided
otherwise.. Anyhow, I got something up on my server that can give you a
head start
http://www.dgtebpo.com/iDesign/index.html
To see the responsiveness, re-size your browser.. Even the slideshow will
re-size for different devices. Observe how the columns on the home page
"stack" when you make the browser window smaller. Also observe how the menu
changes when you make the browser smaller. It turns from horizontal to a
button that leads to a drop-down menu
You can download the zip file at http://www.dgtebpo.com/iDesign/iDesign.zip
Here are a few more observations:
Your images for the slideshow were in differentextensions (jpg, jpeg, JPG)
and a naming convention was not used. I renamed them all using "camel
case" and the jpg extension. I also use camel Camel Case in naming pages.
It is just more organized. Once you start formatting everything you do
with a naming convention (It does not matter.. it can be hyphenated,
underscores, or Camel Case) on every poroject you create it just becomes
natural.
Camel Case is where the first word is all lower case and all other words
begin with a CAP. for example: firstSecondThird.html
I am happy to answer questions if you have any.
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- Ilija Milovic <milovicilija96@gmail.com> May 29 08:13PM +0200
This is great!!
Thanks a lot!!!
- "George Gral" <george@encoreent.net> May 29 11:27AM -0700
HI all.
In another vein here, I am looking for help on designing a couple of web
sites for my clientele. I would prefer someone in Los Angles/San Fernando
Valley area for ease of actually meeting and exchanging ideas but I am not
married to it.
At least one site will be a commercial site and the others mostly
informative community sites.
Please let me know if any of you are interested. You can contact me via
email.
Please provide location and phone number.
Thanks.
George Gral CMCA, AMS, PCAM
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Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 6:49 AM
To: sitedesign@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [WD&D] Must see!
Ernest,
I had a lot of time to reflect on our exchange we had that got so ugly. What
did I accomplish by attacking you? Nothing. You may have never came back to
this group and that would have been a shame. What can I accomplish by
instead actually offering constructive critiques and offering to help? A
Whole lot. A side benefit of teaching others is that oftentimes you learn
in the process.
Most of us are freelancers here and are depending on the web for income. I
would say that none of us are in direct competition with each other. I have
a comfortable income. I am fortunate. I think I need to give back, and so I
have made a pledge to myself that I will help others along in their desire
to learn.
I realize that the bootswatch site download is not actually a working copy.
I am going to email you a bootswatch / bootstrap zip for you to play with.
The template will be the orange and white design. You can download the other
bootswatch css files and replace the ones in the file I am sending you.
I am working on the bootstrap design of the i-design site right now and will
post it on my server and provide a link to the zip for others to download if
they choose.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Ernest Okojie <nestkojex@gmail.com> wrote:
Good day Chris, i visited www.bootswatch.com as you advised. got the
CSS files to download but there was no corresponding html to apply the
css to, or am i to build that from scratch myself?
It also introduced me to LESS style formatting as an alternative to
css, what's your stance on this?
The Kuler stuff was pretty cool but it offered me the themed colours
in an adobe file format i could not use, i was expecting it would
render the colour codes in plain text.
I really like your constructive criticism on this site and the
solutions proffered.
Thanks.
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:55 AM, chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Doug,
> I thought my review was tough! Living abroad has taught me quite a bit
about
> regional tastes. What we (Americans) like, other people find bland. In
some
> countries, they like bold contrasting colors and textures. I believe it is
> due to a lack of choices in times of the past. Have a look at this old
> classic Wendy's commercial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CaMUfxVJVQ
for
> reference. What makes us cringe, is entirely acceptable in some markets.
> My wife and I are shocked and amazed what some people wear here in The
> Philippines. Any given day of the week you can see a young lady wearing
her
> finest outfit which consists of something like a camouflage top with a
> floral skirt, or maybe plaid and camo, plaid and floral, floral and
stripe.
> Sometimes even a combo of three items, one each of camo, flora, and stripe
> or plaid. To top things off she might wear zebra-print high heels.
Creative
> wardrobing is so persistent here that degree programs for professionals
here
> subtleties such as shades - We love to use Adobe Kuler (all designers
> should!) and others think the more color the better. They are "Loud and
> Proud" and it works for them in their market or niche. I have some sites
I
> makes your eyes (and mine) bleed but I didn't mention that because Ididn't
> want him to feel like he was being bullied.
> Ilija has emailed me on the side. I have decided to try to help him out
if
> I can. I am going to create an instance of his English version in
Bootstrap
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- chris walker <customsitepro@gmail.com> May 30 02:30AM +0800
If you learn bootstrap, you will have a valuable tool in your toolbox. I am
not saying it is the only way to make sites, but it is my favorite flavor
this week. I still make my money on Joomla sites.
Study the code, get proficient at it, then find another tool to learn..
there are so many of them out there that all have their own advantages.
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- Stuart Moules <stu.moules@googlemail.com> May 29 09:41AM +0100
Hi all,
Thank you for all your help. I just got it working. Artist if you get an
email with my png attached to convert to ico then just trash it. Thanks
anyway. I didn't save the favicon.ico properly. I converted it properly and
it is now working. Thank you again ;)
Regards, Stuart.
- Artist <sitepro@gmail.com> May 29 07:39AM -0500
Cool.
Glad you got it.
-Doug
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